An important note about Pre-purchase Surveys of Boats

Since the purchase of our boat we have upgraded, replaced, rebuilt or refurbished most of the onboard systems in one way or another.  During these upgrades we have noticed a few things that our marine survey did not uncover.  As a result of this, I’d like to take the time to recommend that any potential Liveaboard boat buyer bite the bullet and have some separate inspections performed by a qualified expert in the individual field to save you a lot of headaches down the road.

Now, I realize that there are a great many highly qualified marine surveyors out there and that all of them intend to be the best at what they do.  The cold truth is very few of them can be experts in every single aspect of every system that make up a cruising, Liveaboard sailboat, unless they are Master Certified Tech’s in each field.  Even then, you might find that they are more versed in some than others.  If you are going to spend what might be the bulk, or a very large portion of your life savings on your dream boat, it pays in the long run to find every bruise, wart or under rated system that lurks on board, especially when you are negotiating the final purchase price.  It can also save you a lot of hassle when you insure your boat.

Our surveyor, for instance, missed a localized termite infestation, some very bad DC wiring in the binnacle, missed a couple overburdened DC grounding system points, severely underestimated the age of our rigging Sta-Loks and missed some very under rated AC four position switches (one of which later partially melted and could have caused a fire). The resistance in that circuit, which is the primary source for our battery charging, may have lead to the premature demise of our last set of ten Trojan T-105 house batteries….about $1500 to replace…..ouch….since it took some time and looking to find that switch it may have had some negative impact on our new batteries but only time will tell.  It also caused issues with our refrigeration and freezer compressors.  Those units don’t like low or unsteady voltage and ours are equipped with diagnostic LED lights that flash a code every four seconds when there is an issue detected by the control module.  Low voltage can display as the same code for a locked up compressor rotor (which is about a $1000 just for parts) so beware when someone tells you your compressor is shot….it probably isn’t.  There is a simple test for the compressor, cut the power and by placing an Ohm meter on the three connections for the control module (which must be removed first to access these but it’s only one screw) if you don’t get an “infinity” reading between any two of the three pin connections, meaning the coils are intact, your compressor is fine.  The readings should all be between 1.5 and 3.0….. (Thank you John Nihiser for the tutorial on compressor coils !!!!)

Here are a few shots of that melted switch……

Note the exposed wire at the terminal connection….also bad

 

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This same switch was partially melted from the heat build up….

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My recommendation is this….once you have a general survey (about $400) of the boat you are interested in, which will hopefully point you in the direction of the most serious issues, find some experts in these specific fields, preferably ABYC Master Certified Technicians.

Electrical Inspection….(AC and DC)….this can take as long as two hours and will run about $160

Rigging Inspection…..this will take about an hour or an hour and a half and cost about $100-$150while I’ve never seen an ABYC certification for this listed on their website….a few inquiries will find a locally recognized quality rigger.

Engine Inspection……you can find a manufacturer certified technician for almost every brand of diesel in most regions… Most charge travel time unless you are close to their offices so this will run about $400-$500

Heat/AC/Refrigeration……If you have one or all of these systems it would pay to have these inspected separately as they can run into the thousands to replace…..an inspection will run about $300 for all three….

At every stage of these inspections you will obviously have the opportunity to walk away from the purchase negotiations or negotiate further based on what is found.  You might save yourself a ton of headaches and expense in the long run or get a better deal on your boat and free up the money for the upgrades or repairs.

 

 

 

Of boatyards and bruises…Or in defense of Non-DIY

I’ll be the first to admit, I’m no master mechanic or electrician.  I can change oil and filters, bleed a diesel injector, change belts, test a battery, install new house or starting batteries, install a chartplotter, change a fuse, trace a wire or two and find a leak here or there and plug it.  I’ve even rebuilt our head (which is not nearly as terrible as folks would have you believe, assuming you aren’t overly squeamish)  and clear a capillary tube blockage in our freezer and refrigerator (if you plan to own a boat with 12v or 24v refrigeration, you’ll need to learn what a cap tube is and how to unclog them.

There are times when you’ll (and definitely me/us) will need the services of a boatyard or specialty technician of some sort.  I don’t have a HVAC license, so buying refrigerant and some other related items are off the table for me.  There will also be times when spending weeks or months in a boatyard on a DIY crusade is detrimental to your cruising dream or at least your spirit. Don’t be afraid to enlist the assistance of a professional, especially if you can afford it, you may learn something valuable in the process, adding to your skills and as an added bonus you get more time to “cruise”.

I try to remember that “cruising” isn’t just about the time you spend on the boat.  It isn’t a prison sentence. Getting away from your boat and seeing things is part of the adventure, even if you are going to see friends and family and places you’ve seen before. These times away are perfect for enlisting the assistance of a professional in whatever specially has eluded you in your time aboard.  Granted, you’ll get the standard “I like to do it all myself” speech from those that end up being so tied down by their boat ownership it hinders their enjoyment of the experience away from the boat to one degree or another. I don’t let that bother me.  We do enough DIY’s as it is and that’s the bonus to cruising, unless “that” person is paying your bills they have no say in how you handle the upkeep.

Take today, for example, we currently have a mystery house bank battery issue.  Our house bank doesn’t seem to be charging from shore power. Our solar charges fine.  While I am passively investigating the nature of this disruption, rather than spending all day with a voltmeter and sweating through my clothes.  I decided to set up a minor test of the system that I can evaluate upon our return and then choose a course of action that might include another such test or answer one question about the “current” (pun intended) issue. I also have a backup appointment with a marine electrician on Saturday.  We may need a new inverter/charger for our shore power.  So, we went to the pool.  If I had been in the bilge and testing wires all day to little effect….I would have missed this….

imageDon’t beat yourself up…sometimes you just gotta call “the guy” hahaha…..

 

 

Always Learning….But don’t let that stop you

I often think we should have named this blog “Learning to Liveaboard”.  After all, despite our lengthy research process, extensive reading, our numerous inspections of sailboats and our experiences on sailboats there is always something more to learn.

On top of that, conditions are almost never as calm and easy as you would like them to be.  Swirling currents, wind, vessel traffic, equipment failures, weather and tides contribute to the challenges we have and will experience on a daily basis.

I recently read a quote that said something like “if you aren’t nervous about going out there, then you haven’t done enough research”.  I don’t think that means that you have to be petrified of taking a vessel out to sea, it just means that you should be aware and concerned about your boat, gear, the constantly changing conditions, how to react to them and developing the skills to do so.  I once met a fellow in Florida who had bought a Hunter Cherubini 27.  Shortly after we met, he was recounting the details of his first offshore trip….that occurred three days prior and two weeks after he had bought the boat in North Carolina !!!  His engine had failed about 20 miles offshore between Georgia and Florida and he didn’t have the ability or parts to fix it…..while recounting this story he basically shrugged his shoulders and said …”we just put up the sails and got as close to shore as we could until we could get someone to tow us in”….I was floored by his nonchalant attitude about the failure of his engine and his lack of preparedness, yet he and his boat survived, unscathed.  At least a thru hull didn’t fail……that might have been a different result.

I suppose the the moral to this entry is….learn as much as you can, don’t stop learning or think you’ve learned it all.  Most of all, don’t let it stop you from doing what you love and enjoying the process……

Kitty Hawk at Deaton's Boatyard

Kitty Hawk on the hard….getting some much needed upgrades…..and TLC ….isn’t she shiny now ?

 

 

Testing out our SPOT Tracker

Some of you may already be aware, based on our Facebook posts, that we acquired a “SPOT Gen3 Satellite GPS Messenger”.  Since we have some time before we return to Kitty Hawk, we have been running a few tests of the functions.  The device can send texts and emails with preset custom messages to a list of recipients that range from “help” to “everything is ok” along with coordinates and a link to a real time map. The device can also send an SOS to the GEOS International Emergency Rescue Coordintion Center.

Over the next few weeks we will be experimenting with a way to show the map permanently here on the blog. Please bear with us as we attempt to do this as it may result in several “new post” alerts…..here’s the first attempt using the link….

 

 

this is hopefully how it will look…..

 

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Delorme is SPOT’s largest competition and their year of service plus the device usually runs about $164 more than the SPOT.  The Delorme was recently reduced on Amazon, so the Inreach is currently cheaper.

Our Most Recent Trip North Day #12 and #13 …or “They’re coming down the stretch!”

After our 50+ hour offshore trip we arrived early enough in Carolina Beach to relax for the latter part of the day.  We rinsed down Kitty Hawk to remove any harmful salt crystals from her sheets, halyards, canvas and other running gear and managed to get cleaned up afterward in time for some dinner at the Sea Witch Cafe and Tiki Bar.

Kitty Hawk had performed very, very well during our offshore time and being in the congested area around the ICW in Carolina Beach made me wish we were still offshore.  That’s the nice thing about a sailboat like Kitty Hawk, when the ICW gets too crowded with jet skis and small fishing boats, we just go where they can’t go.

The next morning we pushed off bright and early before the currents coming through “Snow’s Cut” began to hold us on the dock.  On our last trip through this area we made the mistake of going out for a leisurely breakfast and returned to about a 6kt current pinning us on the dock.  It was an exciting couple of minutes getting away from that.  This was one of those times that the lessons from the previously posted video from the Annapolis School of Seamanship came in handy.

On a side note….It’s a funny thing about people on the water, they (mostly amateur fishermen) apparently don’t realize that their voices carry over water.  Especially when they yell over the noise of their idling engines.  Around 5:30am two guys, in two different boats pulled up next to each other right in front of the marina where we were docked and proceeded to have a loud twenty minute conversation about their lives.  Keep in mind, they were both headed in the same direction and could have gone another 200 yards up river and no one could have heard their life stories, complete with recent medical histories.

We managed to time every bridge between the Seabreeze/Carolina Beach area and Swansboro, NC perfectly.  Of all the upgrades we have made to Kitty Hawk the Garmin 741xs chartplotter has been the most used.  Among other features, it accurately estimates arrival times at any point you designate on a chart and updates it in real time based on changes in speed and course.  Making a bridge opening now is a piece of cake!!

Just North of the notoriously slow opening Onslow Beach Bridge (which is operated by the Marine Corps) we encountered an area, in which, we have always encountered shoaling …

There are some unconfirmed reports that there is a large, submerged tank near 61a….

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As as we approached this area, I recalled seeing a Pacific Seacraft Crealock 37 run aground here last year….that time we were heading South and solely due to my stubbornness we had avoided the worst of the shoaling.  When I saw the Crealock lurching back and forth West of the green mark looking for a path through and eventually coming to a stop on the East side of the channel, I knew this might be a trying moment…..the markers are moved very far to the West side of the channel here, the current that comes in the small inlet to the East and the 1′-2′ depths just West of the marks, you get a bad feeling…..In 2014, after seeing the Crealock come to a halt, I announced to my crew member Mike “I’m not going west of that green….hold on” and I throttled up….I aimed right at the green mark’s East edge…we barely rubbed the bottom and slipped past……We hailed the Crealock and offered assistance but they declined and said they’d wait for the tide.  We saw them pass Carolina Beach later in the day so they were only held up for a few hours there.

This time, coming North, Mike was at the wheel…..the current was absolutely ripping in from the small inlet as we watched a small powerboat headed South zig zag between the marks in the shallow area.  Mike took the Green on our starboard side but the strong current forced us West and we began to ground.  We had a great moment of teamwork as I dealt with the throttle and Mike steered.  Once we realized this was not going to work I gave us as much reverse throttle as I could and Mike deftly reversed us in a graceful figure eight curve away from the shoaling and spun us around for another approach. This time we aimed straight for the green almost touching it with our starboard side, throttled up to avoid the crab-walk sideways movement to the West and we slipped through.

We made it all the way to Swansboro where we docked at Casper’s Marine.  The owners there have been in the marine business for their entire lives as it is a multi generation family operation.  It was very entertaining just to watch the owner handle the power boats in preparation for loading them into the “rack-o-minimums” ….this guy could swing a boat around in its own length like he was driving a golf cart…I’d never seen what I always called a “Rockford Files” turn in a car, done in a boat before but this guy made it look like flipping a switch.

We managed to get cleaned up in pretty short order and we had an amazing dinner at the Icehouse Waterfront Restaurant.

Day #13 was our final day of this trip.  I have to say that we have been very fortunate to have a vessel as mechanically reliable as Kitty Hawk.  We cruised up the rest of the ICW without a hitch, refueling at the Morehead City Marina and sliding into Oriental with just a minor grounding incident in the channel that leads to our marina.  That entire channel has shoaling issues on the green side and it’s pretty easily avoided …..unless you’ve been away for a year and forget about it!!!

Our summer season was filled with finishing our land based obligations and selling the last of our stuff….plus the great streak of “goodbye” parties, happy hours and dinners as we deal with the emotional roller coaster of saying goodbye to friends and family for a while…..plus Kitty Hawk needs some TLC and a few more upgrades……

 

 

 

 

 

“Re-Subscribing”

Hello again…..as a follow up to the update regarding our subscriber database woes, I have discovered that we are unable to import our subscriber database from the old plugin…..I thought I would make it easier to  “re-subscribe” by inserting the subscription box in a post…..If everyone could please use this subscription box …..

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We can resume our normally scheduled operations…..haha…..since we weren’t able to have our April giveaway everyone who “re-subscribes” will be entered into a drawing for a prize as described on our home page…..

Thanks for your patience!!!!

Subscriber Database Issue

I find myself in the all too familiar position of issuing an apology.  Our former plugin that maintained and sent email updates was written by a company called “Readygraph” unfortunately this “plugin” (really just a name for a behind the scenes app for a blog) hasn’t functioned properly since April.  The creators seem unconcerned despite my weekly emails to them and they have failed to do anything to correct the situation.

Due to this malfunction and subsequent lack of repair we have been forced to install a new plugin created by “Jetpack” which seems to be much more solidly written and should give years of reliable service. This is where my apology comes in…..currently there is no way to import the prior subscriber list, so if you receive this email update please take the time to re-enter your email in our new subscription widget (another fancy name for a sidebar tool) and your updates will go on without interruption.  We will try to import the whole list and as soon as that happens we will update this post.  Thank you for your patience !!

 

 

Our most recent trip North Days #9 and #10 (and part of #11)

So, when we last left our intrepid sailors they had departed St. Augustine and arrived in Fernandina Beach…….

We spent an uneventful night at the Fernandina Beach Marina and after carefully evaluating the weather forecast which was predicting East winds 5-10 shifting to ESE (East Southeast) at 5 – 10 later in the day and Seas were predicted at 3′.  Here’s the first lesson to take from that….the National Weather Service (NWS) is frequently wrong….the prediction of weather and the sea state, while generally very good, isn’t as exact an art/science as anyone might hope.  It’s a good idea to be always be prepared for something worse than predicted.  On nearly every occasion, with the exception of our first trip from Fernandina to Georgetown, SC, the forecast has been milder than what we actually encountered. We had debated moving the dinghy from the arch davits onto the deck but since the forecast was mild and we had made this passage before with the dinghy still hanging on the stern we decided to keep her there…..bad idea, but more on that in a moment.

Armed with this mild forecast, (and some advice from a local charter fisherman to go out with the tide) we decided to depart Fernandina as the tide was going out.  As we entered the channel between the Fernandina inlet jetties, the incoming waves were somewhere between 8′ and 10’…with a wave period of what seemed to be about 5 seconds…..not a fun ride….on the upside it took us over an hour to clear the jetties…..so the ride was long AND uncomfortable…..needless to say, we were not anticipating such a rough exit from this inlet.  I ended up wrestling with the dinghy in the rough waves inside the jetties, while Mike piloted, to avoid any damage. I later came up with a system of lines to hold the dinghy more stationary using the hoist as a way to tension the whole arrangement.

The upside was Kitty Hawk took all of that in stride without a hiccup.  Our last exit from here in May of 2014 was as smooth as glass.  Once we reached a point beyond the jetties we turned Northeast to reduce the hobby horsing of the boat.  This made the ride much better, but we then encountered what I can only assume was every single fishing vessel in the Fernandina and surrounding area fleets making a continuous two mile circle North to South and back again with fishing nets deployed.  We made our best effort to keep at least a quarter mile away from any of the fishing vessels, which added yet another hour of maneuvering to our timetable.  Most of the vessels weren’t monitoring channel 16, so verifying their navigational intentions was somewhat challenging.  The Captains that were monitoring channel 16 were helpful and assisted us with estimating the length of the nets being used by nearby vessels to avoid any entanglement.  According to one fishing boat Captain, the fishing boats are often short handed and once they pick a channel on which to communicate with boats they are affiliated with they frequently don’t scan 16 or switch back with any regularity.

Once we we cleared the fishing fleet the remainder of the day was uneventful.  The wind was more ENE (East Northeast and never shifted to East or much less ESE or SSE so strike #2 for the NWS) so, even though we had sails up, we were so close hauled that we didn’t get much benefit from them so we motor sailed. We also discovered that our wind indicator had somehow become bent and wasn’t completely accurate.  The upside was that despite the unfavorable wind, the seas were down to 5′-6’…..the NWS weather broadcast continued to predict East winds shifting to ESE winds at 5-10 which never happened……..

Here’s a short video of some of the milder conditions….at the end of day #2 of our offshore passage…..

 

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Since the weather was mild despite the somewhat rolling sea state and unfavorable wind direction, we decided to make the entire offshore passage to Cape Fear which took about 50 hours total.  we had planned a bailout to Beaufort that we could have easily made on the morning of day #2.

This was the Beaufort contingency…..

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This was our general course for the two day trip…..while we were generally on a heading of 43 to 45 degrees the wind was coming from about 65 degrees as opposed to the forecast 90 to 135 degrees…..

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During the second night, we saw three or four low flying jets firing what appeared to be flares or countermeasures as they streaked back and forth across the night sky.  As it turns out, we got the opportunity to see the Marine Corp night testing of the new F-35B fighter jets….pretty cool.

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(*photo credit to Cherry Point Post)

Our arrival at Cape Fear was again (fortunately) uneventful and we made it all the way to Joyner Marina in Carolina Beach, NC…….coming up next….The Home Stretch begins !!

 

 

Our Most a recent Trip North…Days #4 thru #8

As I mentioned in my earlier post, we had decided to spend the Memorial Day Weekend in St. Augustine to avoid the increased boat traffic.  That turned out to be a great decision.  The powerboat traffic, at least in the area of St. Augustine was relentless from sunrise to sunset.  We were able to sit back, relax, dinghy into town for sightseeing and great food, with no added stress from navigating the flotilla of powerboats.

While we were in the mooring field, we met another CSY owner…Dave, a singlehander, on Windswept…(a CSY walthru model).  Talk about the small world theory…Dave was friends with another member of the CSY Owner’s group, Peter, with whom he had recently visited.  Dave wasn’t a member of the owner’s group but had heard about a project to get a re-creation of the bronze CSY “badges” manufactured. These badges originally adorned the forward companionway hatches on all CSY’s but over the decades were removed as souvenirs by owners who were selling their boats or lost during refits.

 

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I asked Dave if he had been able to get one of these and he said that Peter had sent him some information about them but he hadn’t had time to follow up.  Dave wasn’t aware that I was the member who had the badges made for the owner’s group. I happened to have a couple of spare badges so I gave one to Dave.  He was very surprised and appreciative.

 

CSY walkthru "Windswept" in the St. A mooring field
CSY walkthru “Windswept” in the St. A mooring field

 

We departed St. Augustine at around 7am on Tuesday, May 26th and made a timely pass through the Bridge of Lions.  This was a good thing because the bridge doesn’t open for rush hour and we would have had to wait until 8:30am to depart.

We had a long (About 9 hours) but uneventful day trip to Fernandina Beach where we docked at the Fernandina Harbor Marina, topped off our diesel tanks and settled in for the night.  We had a great meal at the Salty Pelican Bar and Grill and then walked the downtown area. We had to stop in at the Palace Saloon (Florida’s Oldest Bar).

The Fernandina/Amelia Island area has a great small small town feel with a lot of original restaurants and also has an amazing hardware store for obtaining parts and small supplies to keep things in good repair.  The bonus is that all of these are within walking distance of the marina.

 

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Just two Captains…..pondering the mysteries of the sea….or just trying to figure out what happened to his hand and foot

 

 

It’s Official….

Meet our newest ambassador, SV Kitty Hawk who offer a helpful website for all those wanting to learn more about cruising.https://learntoliveaboard.com

Posted by Mantus Anchors on Wednesday, June 17, 2015